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Potential sources for scrolls for people with Indian Personas

There is a fascinating number of styles during the medieval time period of the SCA on the Indian subcontinent. A bit of information I found that just scratches the surface of what is out there.

– Written recognition of titles and accomplishments is more likely to be on copper plate or stone, because India weather makes it, so most permanent records get put on inorganic materials. 

– More iconic for SCA use would be stuff that resembles illustrations – like books or other illumination. Of that we have a bunch of options:

    – South India – mostly produces hard, narrow, palm leaves, where the surface is enamel like, and the writing is mostly text. 

    – North India, pre-Mughal – grows way better palm leaves (different plant) that an actually be drawn on.  There’s a LOT of Jain manuscripts of this sort, but also Hindu ones, with some really great images.  Imitating the shape / layout of these scrolls but using paper/paints for ease might be a really interesting way to create Indian themed award recognitions. The amount of fine detail in some of these manuscripts is really astounding.

     – The Mughal conquest of India (1500s through 1800) – really changes the game entirely.  The material includes paper – there’s actual books, and actual book binding, as they are bringing tech from the Middle East with them.  There’s also a concept of 3D perspective, and a whole lot more realistic rendering.  The tricky spot on this genre is that because the era goes way beyond period, you gotta get into the zone of staring at pictures from 1500-1650ish, as the art really is evolving substantially.  Good news is – this is probably the most accessible art style and there is lots of images around

    -A great example from the Mughal era is the Hamzanama – the version made by Akbar is a set of gorgeous illustrations made to be viewed at a distance, with text for the storyteller to read on the back, so you hold up the picture and read the story out loud while the audience sees the picture.  They are big (~27″X20″) and in insane gorgeous detail. 

For museums the V&A in London, the Met in NYC, the MFA Boston all have some interesting pieces.

Inspirations for Scroll Texts

I’ll have a longer post on how/where to find scroll text but generally I go about it is reading a lot of blogs for sources and that branches out into university / museum / historical sites.

Period Texts for Inspiration

First Scroll Text

As is right, proper and tradition in the scribal community I started out my first assignment with a backlog scroll.

Backlog #RecipientAwardAward DateEventRoyalsAS Year
BL-0145Aiofe bean Conall meic BradaighAoA20-Sep-2008Lakewood Renaissance FairKonrad & Brenwen43

The write up was ‘sparse’.

Need AoA text for what looks like an Irish persona (undetermined time period).  No EK wiki page or local group information.  Recipient's name is  Aiofe bean Conall meic Bradaigh (assuming recipient is female based on the name).

Always up for a challenge I started to see if I could find the person online. After not finding any likely links on social media, the name in the EK OP records or the SCA heralds arms and names registration database(OandA) I expected the person likely changed their name or wasn’t that active.

Stepping back I took at looked at what I knew, and that was the interesting name that holds a lot meaning. Starting with Aiofe

https://www.libraryireland.com/Names.php#girls

I can work with that. Turning towards the next part of the name “bean Conall” bean could have meant wife but also in some cases lady of for example. Going with that I went with lady (or scion) of Conall. Turning to the last part of the name “meic Bradaigh” This is certainly seems like a patronymic (I.e. derived from a person’s father’s first name). Meic from my research was often son of so likely this would have been suggested as Mhic (daughter of) if the name is registered. But no matter, still is a nice form for daughter of Braidaigh(Brady).

I often try to personalize scroll texts to the recipient, while keeping withing style, so someone who is pleasent and the scion of a Irish king (Conall) would certainly help people. Looking at earlier period Irish stories I stumbled on the lovely “Uath Beinne Etair” Hiding of the Hill of Howth and especially the stanza’s the old woman sings agreeing to lure Diarmaid to Finn. This is what I came up with.


Cold, cold! Cold to-night is broad Moylurg, higher the snow than the mountain-range,

The deer cannot get at their food. Cold till Doom! The storm has spread over all:

Horses cannot get over the ford of Ross, no more can two feet get there.

Not a town there is in the land, not a bell is heard, no crane talks.

The wolves of Cuan-wood get neither rest nor sleep in their lair.

Into this plight comes one who opens hearth and home to all, Aiofe bean Conall meic Bradaigh.

Konrad and Brenwen, Fair King and Queen, having seen the works of this scion of Conall in feeding and clothing the populace see fit to make her a Lady of the court and award her arms.   

Done this day, September 20th 2008, in the Barony of Carillion.


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